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Un classique…
À cetee heure où nombreux sont ceux qui pensent que la Stark va sauver notre sport, lol, plus je vois passer des vidéos de la Trumph, plus je suis sidéré d’entendre le barouf du diable que produit cet engin…
Un vrai bruit de merde, en plus, on croirait qu’elle va exploser…
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Un 250 4 tps, quoi;-)
C ptêt juste moi, mais je la trouve particulièrement bruyante.
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Assez d’accord, elle impose les bouchons d’oreilles 😋
@360 :
“Assez d’accord, elle impose les bouchons d’oreilles” 😋
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Ne t’inquiète pas, les Comme Y serrent “les fesses” vont s’occuper de son cas à l’entrée du Contrôle technique, ou sinon, à l’arrivée de la course pour les exclure.
Cependant, je pense plutôt qu’ils ont installé un pot plus libre, donc plus bruyant, soit pour faire certains essais, soit pour impressionner la concurrence avant le début de saison.
Mais je suis certain qu’elle sera à la norme des décibels le jour J de la première course…
Mmouais, il n’est jamais trop tard pour admettre que les 4tps modernes font un bruit de merde hein, plus ou moins fort pour cette Triumph je ne saurais le dire mais en général y’a rien de kiffant à écouter tourner un 4tps, le bruit est moche et pète les feuilles, zéro plaisir auditif, y’aura aucune nostalgie de la sonorité merdique de ces engins.
Un peu comme une de ces saloperies de 2t avec lesquels des vieillards nostalgiques de l’époque où ça se traînait la teub nous les brisent en boucle?
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Un peu comme une de ces saloperies de 2t avec lesquels des vieillards nostalgiques de l’époque où ça se traînait la teub nous les brisent en boucle?
Je l’attendais depuis 3 posts, celle-là:))).
Je me rappelle avec vu Guédard essayer une YZ-F à Reygade en 2003 ou 2004; j’avais été impressionné par 2 choses :
– son attaque, tout au rupteur.
– le bruit, qui donnait l’impression d’un truc complètement asthmatique.
Par contre, j’adorais entendre les vieux et rares 4 temps au milieu des 2 temps dans les cross-inter du début des eighties.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=889409219638987&set=a.246494840597098
Everts était aussi dans le coin juste avant.
Sympa le holeshot en Heat 1 de Swoll devant Deegan, ça change des Yam et PC …
Dommage que ça ne lui ai pas porté chance…
Essai presse en grand pour Triumph aux USA, qui confirme que la moto est bien née.
Quand même super pratique les applications pour résumer les vidéos :
Introduction and Bike Overview
Mike Lindsay from Vital MX is at Gatorback Raceway in Florida testing the 2024 Triumph TF 250X motocross bike.
Bike Features
The Triumph TF 250X features high-end components like Pelli did, Koenig Pistons, and Brembo.
The unique Center spine aluminum frame sets it apart, offering a distinct design compared to other motocross bikes.
Impressive fit and finish with attention to detail in manufacturing processes, including machining and welds.
Chassis Testing and Adjustments
Detailed testing of the chassis performance and adjustments made for optimal handling.
Suspension Setup
Initial setup was softer for novice to intermediate riders with comfortable balance but adjusted for better performance.
Adjustments included changing sag settings, compression settings on forks and shock, resulting in improved turning ability without compromising stability.
Final Impressions and Handling Characteristics
Final thoughts on the bike’s handling characteristics after adjustments.
Handling Evaluation
The bike demonstrated exceptional stability, carving ability, and comfort even under weight transfer to the front end.
In this section, the speaker provides feedback on the bike’s handling and suspension setup.
Feedback on Bike Handling and Suspension
The harshness felt in some bikes is attributed to tighter train bikes with a focus on weight distribution towards the front.
The bike offers good handling with minimal energy transfer to the hands, providing a positive experience for the rider.
The rider triangle, including foot peg and handlebar height, is well-designed and neutral, resembling a mix of Austrian and Honda styles.
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In this section, the speaker discusses the design and specifications of a particular engine.
Engine Design and Specifications
The engine has a bore stroke of 78mm by 52.3mm, similar to KTM designs before they transitioned to a more square bore stroke.
The manufacturer developed their own components such as throttle body, piston, conrod, clutch components, and piston design.
The engine is well-received for its linear performance with good torque through the mid-range.
It produces peak horsepower at 13,500 RPM and maintains it up to 14,000 RPM.
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This part focuses on the electronic features and quick shifter option of the bike.
Electronic Features and Quick Shifter
The bike offers a suite of electronics including a quick shifter option that works smoothly without being overly sensitive.
The quick shifter cuts quickly without feeling intrusive or overly sensitive when shifting gears.
The system is impressive in its functionality and ease of use during testing on the bike.
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Here, details about the electronic systems available on the bike are discussed.
Electronic Systems
The bike features an ECU produced by Get Athena in collaboration with the manufacturer for enhanced performance.
There are 10 maps available for download via an app for mapping purposes along with launch control and traction control systems.
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Discussing the weight and components of a motorcycle, focusing on its competitive aspects.
Weight and Components
The motorcycle weighs 229 lbs fully wet, comparable to Honda 250.
Emphasis on the pride in weight reduction efforts for the frame and engine components.
Unique machining patterns for parts like cases and head contribute to weight reduction.
Utilization of plli tires, smaller rear tire size , for reduced inertia and quick motor response.
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Reviewing specific design choices such as tire sizes and torque hardware used in the motorcycle.
Design Choices
Use of plli tires with a smaller rear tire size compared to competitors.
Preference for lighter rear tires for better performance under leaning angles.
All Torx hardware used, requiring specific tools; emphasis on minimalistic bolt design.
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Highlighting the quality of manufacturing processes, including hand welding and component sourcing transparency.
Manufacturing Quality
Detailed use of Torx hardware across the bike with minimalistic bolt design.
Impressive fit and finish due to precise machining and hand-welded frames.
Transparent about component suppliers like K G zetti, Dr., enhancing consumer confidence in product quality.
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Exploring consumer experience aspects such as pricing, parts availability, and brand trustworthiness.
Consumer Experience
Motorcycle priced at $10,000 emphasizing premium quality.
Introduction of Parts fish feature on website for easy part lookup and purchase process at local dealerships.
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Evaluating personal willingness to invest in a new dirt bike from a new brand based on product features.
Personal Evaluation
Comfort with purchasing due to excellent fit and finish quality compared to other brands.
Guys in Racing Trim
The speaker discusses the performance of a race bike compared to the current model, highlighting its power and electronic features.
Performance Comparison
The race bike produces significantly more power than the current model.
Good starts are attributed to the electronics system.
Mention of limited mapping options but appreciates the manufacturer’s effort.
Expresses interest in testing this model against others for comparison.
Competitiveness and Potential Improvements
The speaker evaluates the competitiveness of the current model and suggests potential improvements for enhanced performance.
Evaluation and Suggestions
Believes the current model would be competitive for a podium spot in a shootout.
Considers it a well-rounded package likely to attract customers.
Desires more torque output and front-side character in roll-on power.
Suggests adjustments to gearing and suspension settings for improved performance.
Excitement for Future Testing
The speaker expresses enthusiasm about future testing opportunities with the bikes, emphasizing comfort and performance aspects.
Anticipation and Feedback
Plans to switch tires to larger sizes for better performance.
Excited about exploring the bike’s performance window further through upcoming tests.
Impressed by the manufacturer’s first attempt at creating a dirt bike.
Et voilà, vous venez d’économiser 20 minutes !
Triumph présent sur tous les fronts.
Au delà des résultats que je trouve impressionnant pour une nouvelle moto, la communication est également au top niveau.
🔥 Whilst the world’s press get their first taste of the all-new TF 250-X, the MX2 boys have something else cooking in the background 👀
Keep your eyes peeled next week!
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